To give them credit the Watchtower has corrected things it has published that were wrong in the past, so I don't think the quote from the 1881 Watchtower is what the modern organization follows.
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"New Light never contradicts Old Light, but simply adds to it"
by stuckinarut2 indoes anyone remember this classic quote from a society publication??.
i remember it has been quoted many times, but i cant find the reference.. if this comment is to be taken literally, it condemns the organization anytime there has been a complete changes in teachings and doctrine!
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Cult or Religion
by Richard C B inwhat is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
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Mad Irishman
People who leave religion want to call every ex-religion a cult.
A cult is an organization with a charismatic leader like a David Koresh or Jim Jones that is wayyyyy outside the mainstream and controls every action of their people, completely isolating them from the rest of the world.
If the JW's are a cult than so is the Catholic Church, the Born Agains, Southern Baptists, etc., etc.
Just because you don't like a religion doesn't mean it is a cult no matter how many times you might call it that.
I think people have forgot what an actual cult is.
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Are logos evil?
by goddidit ini have a vague memory of jws having some objection to logos of some kind in the past, which might be a contradiction to the recent addition of the jw.org logo.. please can someone enlighten me on what their stance used to be regarding logos?.
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Mad Irishman
They didn't want symbols (that are akin to idols) like Watchtower pin type clips or something like that.
The JW.org logo is a website. Kind of like a street address. I'd be hard pressed in the digital age to compare a website address to a symbol or religious idol. Just my opinion.
It is the 21st Century you know.
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The right to shun - wrong?
by Simon inmany people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.
it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.
of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.
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Duh!
Do you know how many non-Witnesses shunned me when I was a Witness? Now you're going to try and regulate what they can do?
I don't think so. It's silly to even contemplate something like that unless we turn the world into George Orwell's 1984.
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1914 'Big A' WT Retraction/Apology?!
by lurkernomore inso i just met with an old 'friend' who wanted a 'chat' after no contact for the best part of 4 years.
she obviously heard about the wonderful news of my abrupt fade :d. i guess i wanted to prove to myself that any future meet ups/chats with jw's would be pointless.
needless to say i proved myself right.
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Huckabee: The US Is More Evil Than The Rest Of The World
by ctrwtf inhttps://youtu.be/spnxx52oesa .
mike huckabee thinks that sin and evil, not guns, are the reason the us has so many mass shootings.. if this is true, then all things being equal, the us has more evil and sinful people than the rest of the world.
who's to blame for that?
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So the ISIS people who go around cutting people's heads off by the thousands and gang raping teenagers are not worse than the worst of the lot in the U.S.?
Mike Huckabee is an absolutely loser.
People get shot in the U.S. because they have access to too many guns. Go look around the world where guns are not available and guess what? There aren't mass shootings. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. The U.S. has made its bed with guns and thus you get these types of mass shootings.
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Operation "Change meeting infrra-weekly" is a smokescreen
by LaFrancia inthe operation "change midweek meeting" probably was a move to divert attention of the brotherhood from layoffs to betel and the ranks of special pioneers, a smokescreen for the pedophilia scandal !
!operation "change meeting infrra-weekly" is a smokescreen.
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Mad Irishman
Changing the format of a meeting doesn't really distract from anything.
Too many ex-JW's see a conspiracy where there is none.
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November 2015 Awake
by username inok. when i first looked at the cover of this issue of awake i was instantly struck on how creepy it looked.
my first impressions were the picture looked almost masonic in nature.
well, further investigation has led me to another picture that shows a grand masonic hall.
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For those of you who is contemplating leaving the Borg, consider...
by James Mixon ini know it's not easy for you to walk it's a big decision, family and etc.. if you are afraid consider this.
i have been here for a few years and i can count on one hand from posters who made the statement, i can't take it anymore, i'm going back.. what is it that members here have given up their family and friends to be free.
is it so we can have sinful fun, we are our own person and no one will tell us what to do?.
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"The stories of people immediately becoming promiscuous drug users after walking out of the KH are just made up from the pages of the WTS."
I can't agree with this statement. I personally know dozens of ex-Witnesses who the second they left became incredibly promiscuous (so much so that some of them would make a promiscuous person blush) and alcoholics and drug users. You haven't seen that with people, especially those under 30? Because I have. They go absolutely nuts. One of my female friends confided in me that she slept with every guy she met after she left and she was completely reckless. I know 3 other ex-sisters who became strippers. If anything most of the younger people I grew up with who left went absolutely bonkers once they left the JW's. They had no code at all.
I'm sure it's different with older people, but certainly not with Gen X'ers or Millennials .
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The Great Leap err Sideways
by Slidin Fast inone of the most disturbing aspects of the recent cut backs is the big brother communist undemocratic aspect to it..
in china in the fifties untold millions died of starvation when on a whim the great leap forward made the economy do a u turn.
anyone who objected even slightly was in big deep trouble.
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Sometimes I wonder if anyone on this site ever went to college or not, because there is not a lot of critical thinking going on sometimes.
Do you know anything about China? Do you know anything about what happened there in the 20th Century aside from what's on Wikipedia? So many members on this site connect abstract facts to something else that is abstract, both having no bearing on one another, that it is unbelievably laughable!
What does Chairman Mao trying to change China into a socialist society have to do with recent changes in the JW org? Ah, I don't see a logical thread connecting them aside from some crazy abstract theory by someone has too much time on their hands. Mao's stupidity killed some 50 million Chinese. Unless you have some digital pics of a bunch of dead JW's laying around somewhere I don't see a connection.